Taking a piss while out in nature: Do you feel the urge?

Original posted question on  Dudenude.com 11 May 2007, 12:28

I don't know why but if I had my choice I'd piss outdoors all the time. When I'm at home and need to take a piss almost always walk out on the back deck or front porch and take a piss. Anyone else feel the same way?

Reply from another member (in Australia)

Yes I do all the time - I never go inside. We have a severe drought here in Australia - even down here in Tasmania (the little island at the bottom of Australia) we are on tank water and if it saves 15 litres of water per flush,  I am going to pee outside.

My response to this discussion:

        I was talking about this the other day with a couple of younger men - who love camping and hiking and who said they always felt great taking a piss while out in nature and the wide open. We agreed that it was almost compelling to take a leak while in the great outdoors.  I think it's an ancestral male behavior - marking our territory like today's canines and our other four-footed brethren- perhaps dating from our primordial pre-human forms as earlier species (enough of that hypothesizing).

       It does feel good to take a piss outdoors - I try to do it at least once a day.   I think that when we are growing up - especially in societies where knowledge or view of bodily functions is suppressed (like puritanical America or some religiously-repressed nations (not to be named)), we don't get a much of a chance to see the hidden and darkly secretive 'word' of the penis/pissing/etc.. so those basic human body functions are shrouded in mystery and probably also get more sexual attachment than they would or should deserve.

  For me, pissing with my friends was a way to share a common sense of our gender  - boys being boys and baring all meant we could also afford to share other things - like our feelings and fears and joys and sometimes pleasures.

 It seems there is a resurgence of sexual fetishism for peeing, pissing, in today's more liberally minded youth - perhaps as a fundamental response to what happened after the first waves of the AIDS epidemic hit the US (and world).   I've heard that because of the need to 'protect' privacy and morals by upholding so-called 'family values', growing boys and girls are less likely to see nude humans bodies in natural setting (gyms, locker rooms, skinny dipping, etc) - the only way they see nakedness is the only associate it with sexual behavior - which is pandemic on the Internet.

 Hey to that guy in Australia. I have a idea that would be HOT! I'd be happy to try a recycling project to help Tasmania survive its current drought - sucking up your body-water and then letting someone do the same back (from me).

       Before you all, cry out 'Gross' - remember Dune (Frank Herbert' sci-fi novel series located on a distant desert planet which was almost completely without water (except collected water vapor).

So the Fremen, the indigenous tribal natives wore body suits (stillsuits) that allowed them to collect and recycle (drink) their own purified urine and body perspiration.

   Actually, I venture to bet that many - if not most guys - have at some time in the lives - probably as maturing teens or pre-teen boys - tried tasting your own piss.

Urban Stress Relief or Sexual Molestation - Riding Tokyo's Trains

Urban Stress Relief or Sexual Molestation - Riding Tokyo's Trains

[Reposted from a separate blog entry]

As you have no doubt heard, there are now Women-Only train cars on the some of the public and private train and subway lines in Tokyo - it's an attempt to prevent sexual groping (men abusing women or teenage girls). They operate these cars mainly during peak rush hours. Yet, I wonder if the authorities realize that they may be encouraging male-male groping behavior by reducing the ratio of women on train cars.

When I lived there and travel to Tokyo, I found it somewhat erotic - although more frequently just plain frustrating and irritating -- to be crammed together like sardines in a train car. Especially during morning rush hour, there is invariably a time when your body or someone else's in pressed up against your front, back or side. Most people try to appear oblivious and just pull in their appendages, and bear it (not bare it), but there seem to be quite a few men (both str8 and otherwise) who seem to enjoy it.

I have had my share of being groped or at least rubbed provocatively by Japanese men on trains. Some of it, of course, is completely accidental. However, there were times when it definitely was not so innocent or at least was mutually pleasant -- to put it mildly.

One time I could feel the guys cock rubbing against my leg - I am taller than many Japanese men (altthough younger men are getting taller and taller as the years go by). He was obviously enjoying the sensation because as we rode along and the train just got more crowded, he proceeded to get a full on erection.

Another, I was on the Keio line leaving Shinjuku at night and it was very crowded. A young guy seemed to not only welcome have me pressed up against him, but he turned himself so that our crotches would be pressed together. This wasn't actually either of us groping, but the force of the bodies and the movement of the train keep us both aroused as we were smashed together at the groin.




There is an urban myth among gays in Tokyo that men who are seeking mutual accidental encounters (rubbing, groping or even stealthful mutual masturbation) will congregate in the last car (or is the first car). Once I saw a tall foreign guy in overall apparently getting a hand job from a shorter Japanese man (last car on the Chuo
(Orange) train.

Finally, there used to be a wild event on or near Halloween (Oct 31) on the Yamate train (green circle line around central Tokyo). Each year, hundreds of people in costumes would all meet at Shinjuku station at 9:00pm and then jump all together in the same train (literally filling up the cars like
morning rush hour, then at the next stop, everyone would rush like man to change cars -- sort of like musical chairs. I participated once and ended up being videoed on the national television news (since the media decided to show up and film the event). The JR authorities did NOT appreciate it -- especially since some 'regular' passengers were bumped into or caused inconveniences (like not being able to get off the train).


There was also a lot of trash (beer cans, wigs, and pieces of costumes) left on the trains - because most everybody was drinking or already drunk by the time the wide train parade got going (typically on a Friday or Saturday night). One guy who I befriended while riding this mad Halloween train rush, was wearing nothing but a yukata (casual cotton kimono) and proceeded to show me that he had nothing on underneath it.
Male-Male Sex in Public Places
Japanese men are not completely bashful - while modest in daily life, they certainly are not adverse to getting their rocks off and men of all persuasions will sometimes have sex in public trysting spots -- called 'hatten basho.' These cruising areas are sometimes in posh locations or in department stores and shopping centers, at public parks, and at the local swimming pools and gyms or sports clubs.

CMNM is a not only about men liking men: It's a male bonding ritual

CMNM is a not only about men liking men: It's a male bonding ritual
       
Loving to be with guys who are naked (or being naked with guys who aren't).... that's the core of what CMNM (clothed male / naked male) situations are all about.

Some (of us) are really in to it.. and seek out such situations whenever possible - of course, it's a gay thing for many of us.

By the way, it is NOT ONLY about homosexual attraction. I could go on and on... but men need (and enjoy) using nudity between themselves and in groups of men (like sports teams, fraternity, army/military, clics and groups of buddies, while in temporary all male situations, such as camping, scouting, etc) and have done it since the beginning of societies... (I'm not talking physical desire or lust between men) to express friendship, belonging to a group, male affection and camaraderie, and dependence/interdependence, control/authority, loyal, leadership, bravura/machismo, and platonic or brotherly love.

I think almost every guy has some times (or even a lot) when he wants to see them naked or be seen naked by his buddies. It's part of identifying with being a man. We've had this discussion in bits and pieces many times on this forum before.  When you absolutely 'need' to be naked or be the clothed guy around naked ones (for various reasons - different for every person) then you are said to be into CMNM or have it as a fetish (if you need it to get off).


I've gone forward (evolved?) in exploring CMNM in myself, and also socially. I have set up many online CMNM groups, and have been trying to organize off-line real CMNM events, meet-ups, parties, etc.

I have a regular blog devoted to the subject: Guys Into CMNM at:
guysn2cmnm.blogspot.com

and on Facebook Page: Guys Into CMNM page at:
www.facebook.com/guysn2cmnm


For those who might in Hawaii this Xmas/New Year's, we are organizing the Hawaii CMNM Festa on Xmas weekend (Dec 25-2 in Waikiki Beach, Honolulu (Oahu), Hawaii.

Find out more at in my JUB blog posts  or at the CMNM Festa Invitation page on Eventbrite.

https://www.eventbrite.com/o/club-cmnm-2813880240
or
http://www.justusboys.com/forum/blogs/49298-sunbuns99 (for on-going updates on the CMNN Festa events as they develop)

If there's enough participation (well in advance), we'll be hiring stripper, and clothed/costumed performers for parties / CMNM role-playing at a private residence. Some events are public or low cost, others required advance booking.

You can also keep up with updates on the CMNM Twitter:
twitter.com/cmnm
or read updates as they are posted/re-posted and tweeted at:
 
http://guysn2cmnm.blogspot.com
http://cmnmguys.tumblr.com/

On JustUsBoys, you can join our CMNM group there:
http://www.justusboys.com/forum/group.php?groupid=40

Hope you can 'show' up! (ha ha), but some day there may be a CMNM Festa Event near you. )

Kelly, organizer -- You can also read about this and more CMNM posts in my JUB blog or visit:
Guys Into CMNM
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https://www.eventbrite.com/o/club-cmnm-2813880240

The spirit is willing but the flash is weak-- day and night. http://sunbuns.blogspot.com

NOTE: It appears I was just deleted from facist facebook (FB) for doing what I don't know. I was just attempting to encourage another friend who had been deleted just a little while ago. Fortunately, there are several other people who can take over for me in the various CMNM groups, pages, and application in Face(ist)Book.

Nudist Beaches in Asia: What are the alternatives for getting naked?

I have just joined a gay social networking and news media site for men in Asian called Fridae.com - one of their tribes (discussion groups) is the Nudist and Naturalist Networks. Here is what I added to several responses concerning: Where in Asian can a guy go to a nudist beach?

In Japan, there are only two places where guys (mostly gay men) go as a nude beach (one in Chiba, and the other is a deserted spot on Shonan Beach). Neither are well known by the general public partly because they are so hard to find, and far from Tokyo. Also, it's not like Black's Beach or ones in other Westernized countries, people get naked very discreetly even on a supposedly nude beach. They generally wear swimwear when walking around or when in the water, but remove their clothes while lying in the sun.

The next best thing to a nude beach then is a hot springs resort or a public bathing spa, the latter of which there are over 50 in Tokyo. In these, men and women have separate bathing areas. Often, there is a small outside areas (enclosed by a fence for privacy) where the naked men can soak in a pool of mineral waters or lounge naked or draped in a towel. Inside, there are various types of baths, but the men are usually totally naked when walking to and from each pool and when they sit on stools at individual showers for washing body and hair. Many of them have wet and dry saunas.

So, despite their being little interest in nude beaches, Japanese are often fond of such warm mineral baths, and even travel to stay in the many areas of the country where there are nice resort hotels grouped around these hot springs, such as Hakone.

However, you don't have to go far from any metropolitan area to enjoy the same atmosphere of men enjoying being naked. Formerly, there were the old-fashioned public baths or 'sento' in every neighorhood, which have just about disappeared these days, being replaced by large, more modern and luxurious: bathing resort (or 'onsen' - hot springs bath or spa).
 The water has a higher content of minerals, particularly sodium (salt) and it's either brought in or created, but in sometimes comes naturally from the ground as Japan is a set of volcanic islands, also prone to earthquakes, as everyone knows.Well... for those in Malaysia or Singapore, and other places where there are not naked places, you can do what I often do: Make your own nude beach by just getting naked where the general public cannot see (easily).

I love being naked outdoors and often do so when there is a patch of land or a bushy area along side a river or a section of recreational land. If men are already sunbathing someplace, then just find a more hidden place in the same area and take it a step further: remove all your clothes and cover your privates. When no one is around, you can remove the covering.

In my trips to Thai, Singapore and Malaysia, I can recall a few places where this might happen, such as Sentosa Island, or a bit further afield - take a ferry or boat to one of the Indonesian islands not far from Singapore. There are surely some deserted beaches as well along Malaysia's southern coast, perhaps on Tioman Island (as there are plenty of foreigners), and also in East  Malaysia (Sarawak), I was able to get naked inside the Bako National Park both inland and at any of many deserted beaches. Guides on individually hired boats can take you to a certain point, and pick you up later.

I realize that an important element may be missing when you simply go out and get naked alone. One of the most fun things about nude beaches is not only about being seen in the nude. It's also the chance to see others (especially men) in all their naked glory. You can't always do both at the same time. There must be places and events where men in various Asian countries are naked or dressing / undressing so take advantages of those spots even if you can't be naked yourself at the same time.

However, you may get a chance to see both nature and men doing things in nature and completely naturally that you didn't expect to see, such as guys having sex or masturbating because they think they are alone, like in this photo from a voyeur site above. Or scenes like the ones below - where everyday Asian guys just enjoy finally being able to get completely naked in public.

A young gay asian guy from the Philippines takes a walk every Saturday afternoon, but not because he is in love with nature, but because he loves to be naked outdoors. Sneaking out of his house on Saturday, he heads into the forest.   As soon as he is out of sight of his home his clothes start to come off. Walking down the path the leaves and branches brush against his thighs, causing him to get very horny. The silky feeling of the brush against his skin causes his cock to get hard. It's not long before his cock is ready to explode in a massive cum shot.   Come inside and see our gallery collection of Jaycee (Jecee) on his naked nature walks.